Tuesday, December 20, 2011

Pinjaman Bank Dunia: Blogger Tulang Besi @Malaysiawaves dan @RafiziRamli kantoi!

Blogger Malaysiawaves atau Tulang Besi kantoi big time.

Pertama, tidak betul-betul faham perbezaan di antara Rescue Package kelolaan IMF dan Perjanjian Pinjaman untuk Rekonstruksi dan Pembangunan Bank Dunia. 

Kedua, sebab tidak boleh membezakan di antara Rescue Package IMF (yang dia sebut dalam tweetnya sebagai `recovery plan') dan yang disebut dalam Project Appraisal Report sebagai National Economic Recovery Plan yang diumumkan oleh kerajaan Malaysia pada tahun 1998.

Kedangkalan Tulang Besi boleh dilihat di sini:



 tulang besi 

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      Kenapa dlm perjanjian dgn Bank Dunia disebut untuk "economic recovery


Jawapan saya;



 Tun Faisal 

@ 
 yg penting bukan pakej rescue yg anuwar sokong :)     




 Tun Faisal 

@ 
 klu x tau beza, pi baca syarat2 yg ada, sama or x sama dgn yg IMF nak    




 Tun Faisal 

 heh3 Malaysiawaves dah malu, kantoi lg - tak tau beza Recovery Package dgn National Economic Recovery Plan :)




 Tun Faisal 

 kesian si Tulang Besi kantoi terus- tak baca agreement & appraisal report :)    


Bila dah kantoi, barulah dia kelam kabut - tengok tweet dia baru lah nak baca dan bezakan perjanjian Rescue Package dengan Perjanjian World Bank tentang Rekonstruksi dan Pembangunan:



 tulang besi 

@ 
   skrg ni aku nak tengok dokumen rescue package IMF yg ko benci sangat tu.



Ketiga, Tulang Besi kantoi teruk apabila cuba menyangkal kenyataan saya tentang usaha rakyat Korea untuk menyelamatkan negara itu dari cengkaman IMF. 

Kata Si Tulang Besi;



 tulang besi 

@ 
     Apsal South korea ambik package IMF, tak komplen pun?siap bayar balik awal lagi




 Tun Faisal 

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 ish rakyat korea siap bergolok bergandai & menderma utk bantu korea byr cepat2 sbb dah buat silap :) 


Bila saya nyatakan itu, Tulang Besi tanpa berfikir (tipikal seperti budak-budak PR yang memang jarang menggunakan akal untuk berfikir) terus menyangkalnya dengan tweet beliau di bawah; 



 tulang besi 

@ 
   hahaha ni mana punya penipu ni. Bergolok bergadai amende ni? Sapa yg ckp ni? Ko mengarut lagi la AA




 Tun Faisal 

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 lain kali study mcm mana tunM slamatkan negara; baca paper hari2 masa thn 97-99; jgn malas :) 




 Tun Faisal 

 keh3 si waves ni kantoi big time- lain kali baca sejarah korea - bbc.in/v0kmNt   


Baca artikel di bawah dan bayangkan suasana ketika itu. Malas nak cakap pasal budak-budak PR dan kualiti kajian dan pemikiran mereka. Sebab itu ramai pemimpin PR terpaksa block twitter orang lain kerana mereka tidak mampu berhujah untuk mempertahankan pendirian separuh masak mereka. Dalam hal ini kita tahu Rafizi Ramli bukan sahaja gagal membuat penyelidikan yang baik, gagal memahami konteks dan sejarah krisis mata wang 1998, tetapi juga sikapnya yang menyebarkan pembohongan walaupun tidak mempunyai maklumat dan kefahaman yang cukup mengenai sesuatu perkara (baca di sini tentang Rafizi kantoi). Tulang Besi? Kalau ulamanya pun dari jenis yang menipu, apa lagi blogger pemfitnah macam Malaysiawaves.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/world/analysis/47496.stm

Wednesday, January 14, 1998 Published at 18:26 GMT

World: Analysis
Koreans give up their gold to help their country


Picture: Eight tonnes of gold was collected in the first week


South Korea has exported the first shipment of 300 kilograms of gold collected in a public campaign to help the country out of its economic crisis. The nationwide campaign - led by large business groups including Daewoo, Samsung and Hyundai - began on January 5, and involved ordinary Koreans donating personal gold treasures, which have been melted down into ingots ready for sale on the international markets. Kate Liang looks at the phenomenon of public self-sacrifice to save an economy in trouble:


It's an extraordinary sight: South Koreans queuing for hours to donate their best-loved treasures in a gesture of support for their beleaguered economy.


Housewives gave up their wedding rings; athletes donated medals and trophies; many gave away gold "luck" keys, a traditional present on the opening of a new business or a 60th birthday.


The campaign has exceeded the organisers' expectations, with people from all walks of life rallying around in a spirit of self-sacrifice. According to the organisers ten tons of gold were collected in the first two days of the campaign.


But perhaps the most extraordinary aspect of the campaign is not the sums involved, but the willingness of the Korean people to make personal sacrifices to help save their economy. The managing director of the IMF, Michel Camdessus, who has just completed a visit to Seoul, was clearly moved by the campaign, calling it "admirable".


There have been other indications that Koreans are willing to work together to face their economic difficulties: Korea's traditionally militant labour unions have announced that they are willing to join a consultative body which is being set up to discuss the possibility of job losses alongside employers and politicians.


But the spirit of self-sacrifice has not, it seems, been extended to foreign workers, with many migrant labourers now facing the threat of being sent home. And there is now a stigma attached to taking holidays abroad, or buying foreign-made luxury products. Some worry that an anti-foreign backlash will become more pronounced in South Korea as economic hardship starts to bite.


[ image: Koreans queued at dozens of collection stations]


Koreans queued at dozens of collection stations


And it isn't clear how effective the gold campaign will actually be. Organisers estimate that South Koreans privately hold around $20 billion dollars worth of gold - that's roughly one third of the money South Korea owes the International Monetary Fund in bailout loans. But compared with some estimates of South Korea's total foreign debt, even such huge figures seem little more than a drop in the ocean.


Yet there is one aspect of the gold campaign, and other demonstrations of public willingness to make sacrifices, on which most analysts agree. At a time when many Koreans feel their fate is in the hands of global organisations such as the IMF and international speculators and investors, donating a valued family heirloom may perhaps lessen the feelings of helplessness which many experienced as the extent of the crisis began to sink in. 


15 comments:

Tulang Besi said...

Kesian tengok ko Faisal.

Ambik tweet2 yang ko suka je. Tweet yang aku terang dgn jelas ko buang.

Ko tak tau pun NERP ni bertujuan untuk selamatkan Malaysia dari krisis 1997.

hahahaha

Tun Faisal Ismail bin Aziz said...

Ish3, itu tweet u lah, tweet yang maki hamun, merapu tu tak de kaitan dengan isu Bank Dunia dan IMF ni. Pegi baca tweet u sendiri la, u pun tau, banyak sampah dari fakta :)

Siapa-siapa tak percaya pergi la tengok kat page twitter dia. Tak de sapa yang larang pun :)

Anonymous said...

Tulang memang Besi.. Otak penuh sampah sarap gay jamban.

Tulang Besi said...

sudahlah, tweet aku yang buktikan ko tak tau apa NERP apsal ko tak siarkan?

Malahan, kalau aku tak sebut perkataan NERP, ko pun tak tau sebb ko tak baca pun perjanjian2 tu.

Ko nak tipu apa lagi, Faisal AA?

Tulang Besi said...

Ni kenyataan mahapig yg dilaporkan BERNAMA 17 Dec 2011:

"“menolak tawaran bantuan dari Bank Dunia (ketika itu) kerana jika Malaysia berbuat demikian, ia akan menjadi hamba kepada Bank Dunia ”."

Tulang Besi said...

soalan2 Tulang Besi yg Faisal AA bachul tak berani jawab:

malaysiawaves tulang besi
@
@tunfaisal @aainaamir @allail84 @kliuc @ayathelme Apa bukti Anwar bersetuju dgn Rescue Package IMF tu? Bila Anwar tt dokumen dgn IMF?

Tulang Besi said...

Lagi soalan2 yang Faisal AA tak berani jawab:

malaysiawaves tulang besi
@
@tunfaisal @aainaamir @allail84 @kliuc @ayathelme Apa bukti rescue package IMF berlainan dgn perjanjian WB yg mahapig buat ni? mana bukti?

Tulang Besi said...

malaysiawaves tulang besi
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@tunfaisal @aainaamir @ayathelme Dan untuk sekian kalinya aku nak tengok dokumen IMF untuk Malaysia yg ko panggil RESCUE PACKAGE tu. Mana??

Tun Faisal Ismail bin Aziz said...

Ish3, cukup2lah bila dah kantoi; cari isu lain pulak :) baca artikel sebelum tu syarat yang dikenakan kpd Korea. Lepas tu pi cek archive tengok syarat-syarat yang dikenakan kpd Indonesia dan Thailand. Lagi u tweet, lagi nampak u tak tau pun apa yang berlaku pada zaman tu 1997-1999. Dah buat cukup research, nanti dtg balik sembang ya :)

Tulang Besi said...

Ni kenyataan mahapig yg dilaporkan BERNAMA 17 Dec 2011:

"“menolak tawaran bantuan dari Bank Dunia (ketika itu) kerana jika Malaysia berbuat demikian, ia akan menjadi hamba kepada Bank Dunia ”."

Jelas Mahapig terkantoi berbohong

Tulang Besi said...

yg herannya si Faisal AA ni buat cabaran mcm ni:

@malaysiawaves klu x tau beza, pi baca syarat2 yg ada, sama or x sama dgn yg IMF nak @aainaamir @allail84 @sfazdley @kliuc @ayathelme

Tapi, bila aku mintak dokumen IMF tu sampai skrg dia tak bagi.

Last2 dia tuduh aku kantoi. Kantoi amendenya, dia cakap takda bukti.

Tulang Besi said...

Soalan2 aku satu pun ko tak berani jawab.

Tetiba ko kata aku kantoi.

Apa punya munafik ko ni?

Tun Faisal Ismail bin Aziz said...

Heh3 u ni bila meroyan memang tak faham tweet. U ambik wuduk, itupun kalau u Islam la, kalau u sembah anuwar dan sosialisme, tak payah lah. Tenangkan fikiran, baca tweet aku tu balik. Mungkin Allah swt akan bukakan hijab dan celikkan hati u :) selamat membaca semula tweet2 aku :)

Anonymous said...

ada ke dlm islam ajor bleh tau org tu munafik?bak kata tulang besi.aku rasa allah jer yg bleh tentukan.pelik gak islam tulang besi ni

HeroTamil said...

TBM....

Antara syarat syarat utk indonesia menerima bantuan IMF...

http://www.imf.org/external/np/loi/041098.htm

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